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lady_karelia ([personal profile] lady_karelia) wrote2008-05-17 12:55 am

Vaccination?

Something came up in chat tonight, and because it's late and I'm tired and have to be up early in the morning, I offered to continue the discussion on LJ. So here goes.

If you're that keen on convincing me why I should allow myself or my children be injected with a cocktail of poisonous substances, then please provide me with the scientific evidence, ie. link to scientific studies that prove to me beyond the shadow of a doubt that vaccines are beneficial rather than damaging.

I spent nearly eight years of my life looking for that scientific evidence. I started out because I wanted to disprove someone who told me I'm a "believer in the religion of medicine". I was desperate to find a scientific proof and subscribed to medical journals, which cost me a fortune. When I finally gave up, I had never felt more disappointed.

For example, one would think there'd be plenty of double-blind studies out there, proving that vaccines are beneficial. Well, I'll be darned. Didn't find a single one.

Don't bother linking me to "news". The "news" also tell you how wonderful diet coke is. Or ready-made meals that contain more poisons than edible stuff, let alone nourishment. Or how wonderful meat is. So, just don't. I want scientific evidence.

Give me a clue why it might be beneficial to inject mercury, formaldehyde, aborted fetal tissue, animal dna, alunimum directly into the blood of a human. All in one go. And that's not even mentioning the "virus" which is "weakened". Weakened with what kind of methods? Ethical? I doubt it.

And, as someone was afraid of meeting me or my children since we're not fully vaccinated, please tell me why you are afraid if YOUR children are fully vaccinated to meet my unvaccinated children??? You are told when you bring your children into your doctor's office as well as by TV commercials that once your children are vaccinated, they are fully immune to the disease they're vaccinated against. Why are you afraid of non-vaccinated people if the vaccines are so safe and protective???

I have been reading my f-list religiously. Each time vaccines are mentioned, they go together with the mention of sickness. The flu vaccine wasn't "the right strain that's why I had the flu anyways", or the flu vaccine "made me sick like hell". The anti-cervical cancer vaccine "made dd really sick, but at least she'll be protected now". Oh, rly? She might be so well protected that she'll never have children. Read the package insert, at the very least. And for crying out loud, please do your research.

[identity profile] bambu345.livejournal.com 2008-05-18 01:32 am (UTC)(link)
I had a conversation with my brother and my SIL about this topic recently. Their kids are young enough to still be doing the childhood rounds of vaccines, and SIL does her research. There is apparently a recent study (I do not know whose) which links standardized vaccinations with the rise in Autism.

It makes me very glad that we kept our children from having every single vaccine ... but it irks me that we succumbed to so many.

[identity profile] lady-karelia.livejournal.com 2008-05-18 03:49 am (UTC)(link)
Yes. In fact, there is plenty of scientific evidence, starting with the effects of mercury poisoning, which are incredibly similar to the symptoms of autism. And let's not forget Dr Gerberding's slip-up on TV recently, during which she was recorded saying there is a link.

I'm totally with you on the irking. There was a time I didn't question.

[identity profile] bambu345.livejournal.com 2008-05-18 03:58 am (UTC)(link)
It's shocking how many illnesses can be attributed to some sort of poisoning -- whether it be mercury in vaccine bases, lead in paint, or some other item which manufacturers use because it's cost efficient and increases their profit margins.

I, too, am glad that I've learned to question and quietly rebel.

[identity profile] lady-karelia.livejournal.com 2008-05-18 04:06 am (UTC)(link)
Indeed! I won't even go into what's passing as "food". Or cosmetics.

You're the clever one, doing the rebelling quietly. LOL. I try to be quiet about it, but it never lasts long.

[identity profile] pennswoods.livejournal.com 2008-05-19 12:01 am (UTC)(link)
I recall an interesting conversation I had with an acquaintance a few years ago who was involved in research on chemicals and autism rates. Apparently, his group's research found a strong correlation between the increased use of fire retardant materials in children's products (toys, bedding, etc.) and autism rates.